Comments on: Does it Really Work? http://blog.franktrindade.com/2009/03/05/does-it-really-work/ Agile, software and some non-sense Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:41:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: anton http://blog.franktrindade.com/2009/03/05/does-it-really-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1015 anton Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:38:36 +0000 http://blog.franktrindade.com/?p=206#comment-1015 I think the the truth is in the middle: the testers should be almost customer and in the same time with technical experience I think the the truth is in the middle: the testers should be almost customer and in the same time with technical experience

]]> By: franktrindade http://blog.franktrindade.com/2009/03/05/does-it-really-work/comment-page-1/#comment-404 franktrindade Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:45:08 +0000 http://blog.franktrindade.com/?p=206#comment-404 @David, it depends if the customer knows how to evaluate usability, and my point is exactly that this isn't always true (and its is not his/her job to do it anyway). If you say to the customer "Let's stop testing, it will make us go faster", he won't have a clue either, but traditionally in Agile testing is considered very important and under the team's responsibility, but UX not. Carlos gives a really simple example in this post (http://www.lixo.org/archives/2008/11/27/balances-between-agile-and-usability/), which I have seen happening in projects, that is delivering lists without search or pagination. The customer is very happy and cheerful, until he has a lot of data in his system and can't find anything anymore, but then it is too late to complain about it. Regards, Francisco @David,

it depends if the customer knows how to evaluate usability, and my point is exactly that this isn’t always true (and its is not his/her job to do it anyway).

If you say to the customer “Let’s stop testing, it will make us go faster”, he won’t have a clue either, but traditionally in Agile testing is considered very important and under the team’s responsibility, but UX not.

Carlos gives a really simple example in this post (http://www.lixo.org/archives/2008/11/27/balances-between-agile-and-usability/), which I have seen happening in projects, that is delivering lists without search or pagination.

The customer is very happy and cheerful, until he has a lot of data in his system and can’t find anything anymore, but then it is too late to complain about it.

Regards,
Francisco

]]> By: jacksguides.com http://blog.franktrindade.com/2009/03/05/does-it-really-work/comment-page-1/#comment-390 jacksguides.com Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:10:08 +0000 http://blog.franktrindade.com/?p=206#comment-390 Given that Agile software development is constantly allowing for users to test and comment on the system, before it is handed over at the end of a traditional waterfall project, how is the user considered left out? The useability isn't at the end of the day, up to the developers. If the customer is not happy with it, they will being it up at the end of the iteration and this can be resolved. Maybe I am missing the point of the post? Regards David jacksguides.com Given that Agile software development is constantly allowing for users to test and comment on the system, before it is handed over at the end of a traditional waterfall project, how is the user considered left out?
The useability isn’t at the end of the day, up to the developers. If the customer is not happy with it, they will being it up at the end of the iteration and this can be resolved.
Maybe I am missing the point of the post?

Regards
David
jacksguides.com

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